Comments on: Where do they get that figure from? http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/ Dropping more plop than a pigeon. Sun, 20 May 2012 18:00:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Mark http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-725 Mark Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:19:22 +0000 http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-725 Thanks Finn. It's a weird and messy world this photographer thing. I wish as a film / tv editor I had the same rights over the content I assemble. If only he would have sold me the photograph . . . but this jackass wanted profit share of the company I was building the website for!? He was actually convinced that his photo would increase sales. The photograph was a macro-shot of a vintage laundromat dial . . . I can definitely see the the correlation . . . Thanks Finn. It’s a weird and messy world this photographer thing. I wish as a film / tv editor I had the same rights over the content I assemble. If only he would have sold me the photograph . . . but this jackass wanted profit share of the company I was building the website for!? He was actually convinced that his photo would increase sales. The photograph was a macro-shot of a vintage laundromat dial . . . I can definitely see the the correlation . . .

]]> By: editor http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-724 editor Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:25:43 +0000 http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-724 Finn, a) the bobbies have been at my house and it was quite confusing b) I want my camera back c) I'd like that picture, please. Two 8x10s and a few wallet size. Finn,

a) the bobbies have been at my house and it was quite confusing
b) I want my camera back
c) I’d like that picture, please. Two 8×10s and a few wallet size.

]]> By: Finn http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-723 Finn Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:11:04 +0000 http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-723 Everyone with a camera is a photographer now, just like everyone with Photoshop is a Designer. To answer your question, the photographer ownes the image, and the client buys the rights to use that image through a usage fee (the media, timeline, and actual usage to be agreed upon by both parties through contracts and model/landscape releases), and once that usage time is up, it is then available to be used/sold freely by the photographer (governed by the releases). Mark: how could the camera's owner own the image? I take a picture of the Queen's titties with your camera, and the Bobbies come knocking at your door, are you going to jail? This friend/photographer sounds like a case. Geez, it's not as if his name was going to be blazed across the images! Shoot it, bill it, and move on...right? Everyone with a camera is a photographer now, just like everyone with Photoshop is a Designer.
To answer your question, the photographer ownes the image, and the client buys the rights to use that image through a usage fee (the media, timeline, and actual usage to be agreed upon by both parties through contracts and model/landscape releases), and once that usage time is up, it is then available to be used/sold freely by the photographer (governed by the releases).
Mark: how could the camera’s owner own the image? I take a picture of the Queen’s titties with your camera, and the Bobbies come knocking at your door, are you going to jail?
This friend/photographer sounds like a case. Geez, it’s not as if his name was going to be blazed across the images! Shoot it, bill it, and move on…right?

]]> By: editor http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-700 editor Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:34:26 +0000 http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-700 If only it had been a picture of Paris Hilton's naughty bits, your photo would be on PerezHilton today! Finn, if you're reading this, what's the answer to Mark's question? If only it had been a picture of Paris Hilton’s naughty bits, your photo would be on PerezHilton today!

Finn, if you’re reading this, what’s the answer to Mark’s question?

]]> By: Mark Rozeluk http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-699 Mark Rozeluk Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:24:28 +0000 http://bloggerton.ca/2006/12/18/where-do-they-get-that-figure-from/#comment-699 Interesting. I had a recent bout with an ex-photographer-friend-of-mine who I commissioned to take photos for a website I had done. I was an integral part of the shoot (often pulling the shutter release) art directing all the shots. This fellow later tried to sue me because I wasn't using the photo as it was intended. Sadly, he does have rights to say this (despite the fact that I paid for the film). Though for me the real question was: who does the photo belong to? The guy who pushed the button? Set the aperture? Framed the shot? Owns the camera? In an effort to avoid further argument, I offered to purchase said photograph (as my client loved the shot and really wanted to use it). This clown's retort was: "The photograph is not for sale. I don't want it used in your site design". I grabbed my shitty digital point and shoot, returned to the location and retook the photograph. I then opened photoshop and matched the color and depth of field of the original. Long story short - client didnt know the difference and this guy just looked like a jackass. Interesting. I had a recent bout with an ex-photographer-friend-of-mine who I commissioned to take photos for a website I had done. I was an integral part of the shoot (often pulling the shutter release) art directing all the shots. This fellow later tried to sue me because I wasn’t using the photo as it was intended. Sadly, he does have rights to say this (despite the fact that I paid for the film). Though for me the real question was: who does the photo belong to? The guy who pushed the button? Set the aperture? Framed the shot? Owns the camera?

In an effort to avoid further argument, I offered to purchase said photograph (as my client loved the shot and really wanted to use it). This clown’s retort was: “The photograph is not for sale. I don’t want it used in your site design”.

I grabbed my shitty digital point and shoot, returned to the location and retook the photograph. I then opened photoshop and matched the color and depth of field of the original. Long story short - client didnt know the difference and this guy just looked like a jackass.

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